I think this was passed on to Lee. Find out in the 2015 documentary Outbreak, newly available to stream on FRONTLINEs YouTube channel. He says, "Well, don't you know?" That's the way I read him at the time. In one of the Warren Commission's exhibits, Hal Collins is listed as a character reference by Ruby on a Texas liquor license application.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby But he had prepared answers and statements, anticipating reporters either at the ship or some place down the line on the return. What do you do with his rifle? Everything is deteriorating. . And he was in the Marines as well. He imagined himself taking part in something bold and totally separate from anything he had come from. This interview was conducted in 1993 in conjunction with Frontline's first broadcast of "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? tapes & transcripts+credits+privacy policy His fellow Marines called him Oswaldskovich, because he never shut up about his admiration for communism or the Soviet Union. She has no control over him. The first thing he says is -- and he points to it -- "It's tapped." I don't think he had much experience with women, if any, before moving to the Soviet Union. The Soviets executed him on May 17, 1963. The planning that Lee did probably at least extended all the way back to the time he was in Japan because of the clothes he purchased at the time. FRONTLINE is a registered trademark of WGBH Educational Foundation. He always enjoyed books, but then he started exploring other areas. But at the same time, he always was trying to get away from her. You look at all the data there, and it comes up to one conclusion as far as Im concerned the Warren Commission was correct. That to me is very plausible for him to do. There is no question in my mind that Lee was responsible for the three shots fired, two of the shots hitting the president and killing him. His plans, as we well know now, were already made to go to Russia, rather than to Cuba. So, to me, that was his back-up plan if everything else failed. Those are the indications that say he took some thought, some planning over a long period of time. He wasnt political. This was unsettling. What did he have in the back of his mind? His wife is trying to have a second child born in Russia. In his new book, The Interloper: Lee Harvey Oswald Inside the Soviet Union Peter Savodnik, a journalist who lived and worked in Moscow and has extensively traveled around the former Soviet Union, dives into the foreign life of America's most notorious assassin. Living in Fort Worth, TV was making its debut. This interview was conducted in 1993 in conjunction with the first broadcast of FRONTLINE's "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?". He pressed the lieutenants, he pressed the platoon leaders. Additional funding is provided by the Abrams Foundation; the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation; Park Foundation; the Heising-Simons Foundation; and the FRONTLINE Journalism Fund with major support from Jon and Jo Ann Hagler on behalf of the Jon L. Hagler Foundation, and additional support from Koo and Patricia Yuen. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. WDSU-TV interviews Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963 when he was living in New Orleans. The fact that he could put on a facade and pretend to be somebody he wasnt to me, it gets down to what happened later on. It was a terrible thing to look at. I think this was passed on to Lee. She shared her viewpoints as to whether Oswald was guilty, whether he was a government agent and, whether he was pro or against Castro among others. Plus, Bob Schieffer remembers his own run-in. discussion+glimpse of a life+links & readings+teacher's guide It's there; put it to rest. Hola Elige tu direccin Libros. And his attempted murder of Edwin Walker is clearly about that. But he would look at it. Anytime they brought anything up that pertained to the assassination of the president and the shooting of the police officer, he knew nothing about it. Can you describe that for me? What attracted her to Oswald and why did she come back with him to the United States? We were away from Lee during the three years of military school, only seeing him during the summer vacations or holiday-type things. There is a power that comes from Marxist doctrine, a sense of belonging to something right now that is on the cusp of doing something very, very important. ", I became kind of intense at that point, looking into his eyes. FRONTLINE reports from Iraq on the miscalculations and mistakes behind the brutal rise of ISIS. . Marina was upbeat on it. I tell him it may or may not be. He's failing in his marriage and in his attempts to do whatever he wants to do. He was using his own imagination. After the assassination you see Lee in the police station, in the jail. His mother had the same type of imagination. Somehow, somebody never realized what the Sam Hill was going on. Its good that people raise questions and say, Wait a minute, lets take a second look at this. But when you take the second look and the third and the 40th and the 50th, hey, enoughs enough. . It's always personal. He says he got that at the theater, and they hadnt been mistreating him since then. FRONTLINE+wgbh+pbsi, web site copyright 1995-2014 That's not to suggest it was in any way any less than that, but it's just that we refuse to see it in its true light. He indicated that, if reporters were asking about when hes coming back, to say nothing He wanted not to be bothered by the reporters. They've got the original negative. This might have been the first leaflet that he ever got from anybody on the street. Apparently he'd been planning this for a long time. He says he got that at the theater, and they hadn't been mistreating him since then. I think three major things [were] on his mind at that particular time. I Led Three Lives he became really engrossed in that particular TV show, and he was still watching it when I left to go in the Marine Corps in 1952. Can you sort of talk about that character trait? . Initially, when we started talking, I was concerned about his bruises on his face that he had received at his capture at the Texas theater. This was unsettling. You've got all kinds of documented evidence. As Ruby evidently mismanaged the operation, he was given a choice to either finish the job himself or forfeit his life. New book by Hoover fellow recounts his experiences knowing JFK's assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. The Most Risky Job Ever. Reporting on ISIS in Afghanistan. The book's findings will catapult you into a trip through a house . Oswald in a way sort of set up the disaster that was to come before he even arrived in Moscow. Theres hard physical evidence there. His comment was she is "too much like Maw." We had an old black-and-white. It was a game to him. When Lee came back to Fort Worth, what kind of spirits was he in, and what kind of hopes did he have for his new life here? I said, "Lee, they've got you charged with the death of the president, shooting a police officer. If you had to take a guess about when he got his political beliefs, how he was introduced to Marxism, what would you guess? Oswald told Marina that killing Walker would have been like killing Hitler, so clearly Oswald imagined himself playing some kind of grand world-historical role, and it's noteworthy that the way in which he went about attempting to kill Walker was exactly the way he went about successfully killing John F. Kennedy. The planning that Lee did probably at least extended all the way back to the time he was in Japan because of the clothes he purchased at the time, If it didnt work for Russia, he was going to stay in Europe anyway. If they didnt know who worked for them, he could always say he worked for them; he was in control of the FBI then. He had acquired the vernacular of radical politics. What did he say, and what were you trying to get out of him? Hes thinking about going to Cuba. Marina had gone over there to live with somebody until he got established over there. So if we don't understand something, we assume that there is some sort of plot or conspiracy -- that there is an order, and we're just not seeing it. All these ups and downs hes having, he keeps trying to get up and make it at some level, but hes not succeeding. He wanted to get his manuscript published if anybody was interested. Talk about his mothers importance to him. So, to me, that was his back-up plan if everything else failed. I didn't press it any further. First, the $64,000 question: Why did Lee Harvey Oswald kill John F. Kennedy? He would talk about anything else. But then, Oct. 31, we hear that he's in Russia. Here was a start. They didn't finalize that. Nobody was telling him whether this was good, bad or indifferent, or what the consequences of what his actions were. Why couldn't he find a sense of purpose or place there? Marina had gone over there to live with somebody until he got established over there. Hes failing at almost every level. He says that the "hard physical evidence" from the assassination leads him to one conclusion: "The Warren Commission was correct." They even asked me if I'd ever been an agent of the federal government or the CIA." It wasn't uncommon, after all, for American communists to experience disillusionment with the Soviet Union. It's about escaping the status quo and achieving some kind of greatness, as it were. Cuenta y Listas Devoluciones . His mother had the same type of imagination. He found a spot, not very far, from where Walker was. Aline Mosby was one of the first women assigned to cover the Kremlin, There are no reviews yet. I think it says that he is very pragmatic, and hes going to go with the punches. What do you do with his pistol? I didnt press it any further. December 4, 1963: In an interview Lee Harvey Oswald's mother, Marguerite Oswald, says assumes her son is innocent and that President John F. Kennedy would be alive and so would her son if Oswald . What would have been the appeal to him about something like Marxism? Nothing illustrates the thinness, the superficiality of Oswald's ideology as his growing disillusionment with the Soviet Union. He planned by himself, he executed by himself, he failed by himself. This interview was conducted in 1993 in conjunction with Frontline's first broadcast of "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? You had said that he had very much been on his own in New York. For Oswald, he never ever has a sense of home, or rootedness, and it fills him with this sense of rage, which he not surprisingly directs against his mother. Im talking about the police officer being shot and the president. Describe a typical day in Oswald's Minsk. Hed actually applied for Albert Schweitzers school in Switzerland, and been accepted for that summertime or fall semester. Web Site Copyright 1995-2023 WGBH Educational Foundation. When I returned home from work that evening, I asked him about it, and he said, "Well, everything went all right. In his interview with FRONTLINE, Blakey calls the prosecution case against Lee Harvey Oswald "open and shut." Best Known For: Lee Harvey Oswald was a former U.S. Marine who was accused of killing President John F. Kennedy. What do you say to people who are so convinced or are trying to believe in his innocence? They wasnt going to convince him to say something. There's something about a sort of metaphysical break when it comes to his migration to the Soviet Union, and I think that in a way he set himself up for not only failure but terrible disappointment. He wasn't political. I mean, they had asked the wrong man. When he returned to the United States, he didnt want to be a Russian. To try to understand why Lee did what he did on Nov. 22 is a cumulative effect of all his past plans and efforts and failures. He seemed to really get involved with it and hang onto it after the programs were over. Talk about his mother's importance to him. When Lee got back from Russia, the way he talked about the Russian system, he didnt talk about it politically, in the sense that he was wrapped up in communism or Marxism. PBS is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization. That was a training ground [for] his imagination. . He knew something they didn't know, and he would keep it to himself. But she certainly conveyed it to John and I at very early ages. Uploaded by Oswald lacked the historical or political consciousness of a genuine radical. It maybe opened up some doors for him. That's where he started doing a lot of reading and everything. Buscar Amazon.com.mx. Two, Jack Ruby did inestimable harm to the whole process of America coming to terms with what happened. He was toying with them. While in police custody, Oswald was murdered by Jack Ruby. But the facts are there. Lee and Marina were having difficulties, just by being together I guess by being put in new circumstances and everything.