Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. [/quote] However, the vast majority of the time I spend with my students that would fall into the AMA category is spent on working out the kinks in their swing (to help them hit straighter shots more consistently) and helping them with better contact with the golf ball. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. I hit the same. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc Ha, okay. 915 FD Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. I shared the dispersion plot with our local club committee who are thinking of installing trackman after redeveloping several holes, and was asked questions along these lines: 1. More photos from the event here. The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. <>stream Smash Factor 1.475 WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. I originally tried the 12 bounce in the 52 degree but I could feel the club stuttering in the turf at impact. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. Is it around 25-35% less than the AMA group? 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. It's not the length that makes a pro. [/color] Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. We share your golf passion. Im 65 years old. I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] Required fields are marked *. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Driver: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (9 degrees @ 8) Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. The driver is almost always the most talked about golf club in everyone's bag. Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). [/quote] Very interesting but sort of depressing article. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. That is why you will find some pros wedges measured up to 0.5 or even 0.25 when listed and it is also likely that some of the actual strengths of the wedge lofts they use may in reality be stronger (i.e. Apex Height 112' 11" Well I certainly feel hood about how I played when i did. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. I would say probably is bs. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. i suggested he play white from the start and he is happy. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. What about the balls we use. No question - 100%. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. And that is for the simple reason that pros will hit all manner of a variety of different shots with their irons, especially for their approach shots, and as such, they will hit the same iron a variety of different distances. I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. also his AoD on the stinger. Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. Acting upon real data, not opinion, takes a giant step in that direction. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Upload or insert images from URL. The challenge is, improving your distance is a slow and arduous process. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] [/quote] Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. #TeamTrackMan [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] wrong? I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. [/quote] If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. That smash factor surprises me a bit. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. Have a look at his driver and 6 Sorry for the ramble. Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. The 22 years old Jon Rahm, is one of the new upcoming stars on the European and PGA Tour. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) Does Trackman update this data each year? Thanks! Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. As he becomes more efficient, the AMA has shorter approach shots which lead to closer proximity to the hole. Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. How Far Does a 3 Wood vs 5 Wood Go? Club Head Speed 119.55 It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. Thanks. In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. Length is nothing. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. [/quote] It has to do with my ability. Mail at your own risk to: Excel Sports Management I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high When you take the wedge out of the bag you notice the fuller toe, and there is more material behind the head. As golf instruction and coaching continue to move more towards verifiable data (what the instructor/coach knows) and further away from guess and check (what the instructor/coach thinks), we expect to see more improvement in the golf community. My longest drive was 270. Once again Vokey customise their wedges even in the grooves. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White endobj The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. If it was published in a journal as well, please could you direct me to where I could find it. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards 913 HD In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Mizumo T22 Blue 54 58 S400 TI And this is where taking the TrackMan Combine and going through a Find Your Distance session is so valuable. I'll pass. I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! me too! It is all about the short game A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. [/quote] I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. All that strength comes from the lower body. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] I think this is very interesting but misleading. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. Going the Distance? Ping Glide 2.0 (54) DG S400 TI It's good for some laughs. I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it Does the AMA truly know how far each of their clubs carries? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] God how I loved playing golf. Top 100 Player Analysis, drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players, How Do Pros Hit the Ball So Far? For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. 14* SLDR // Speeder 8.3x [/color] Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. Only 0.4% of the average male amateur population is above a club speed of 115 mph.